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Friends, Whampers, Countrymen – let’s have some beers — 21 Comments

  1. SO impressed that you are doing this… and I hope it goes well. But I wouldn't write off community meetings – simply change the facilitators!

  2. why are you discouraging people over 40 from going and speaking out? I bet there are far more over 40's in WH than under. And a lot of them would have lived there longer and would understand the situation a lot better.

    • Because this is an attempt to reach out to the area’s young(er) population, who – from what they tell me – often find these sort of meetings either difficult to get to (early evening starts), immensely tedious, or – yes – assume a level of knowledge they may not have.

      However, I’m afraid you bet wrong. There are in fact almost exactly twice as many people in the area who are under 40 (22,200) as over 40 (11,600) according to the 2011 census. Even taking just the 20-40 age bracket, the over-40s are still outnumbered by 5,000.

      It is also a slice of the population with different needs/perspectives/insights that are no less valid than those of the older population, but are rarely heard. These people are the future of the area. I don’t think tenure of residency gives people a greater right to have a say in what goes on than people who’ve lived here just a year or two. Nor do age and tenure necessarily match up either – I know people born and brought up here who are in their 30s and people in their 50s who moved here in the past year or two. Which of them understands the challenges better?

      One might also argue that those younger people who have not lived here a long time will only “understand the situation a lot better” if they’re given some information about it and can appreciate what can and can’t be done.

      I stated very clearly that people over 40 are very welcome to attend, I’m just trying to engage with people who are interested in the area but don’t feel that other sorts of community events are necessarily for them.

      If you’ve been to other meetings tackling these topics then you will have had an opportunity to speak out; if not, why not come along on Tuesday and give us your thoughts?

    • Another great initiative Jonathan. Even as someone slightly above the suggested age limit, I too find the local meetings are often just somewhere for the older residents to RANT at anyone and everyone. Politeness and consideration seem to go out of the window and locals seem to think it is a chance to bash anyone who dares put their head above the parapet to suggest something “interesting” or different.

      I hope this meeting gets the support and audience it deserves – though it may be difficult it is valuable.

  3. I just don't think age should come into it at all. As you have pointed out in your response young people have been put off past events for various reasons, therefore surely by emphasising the age thing you are risking older people coming along. It should never be about age.
    Most of these 20-40 people are probably not intending to live in WH for very long. Either renting or flatsharing

    • Perhaps these people would like to live in West Hampstead for longer but find the lack of reasonably priced housing makes it impossible. That alone is an interesting point.

      I’m not trying to segregate, I’m trying to hold an event that will have more appeal to a segment of the population than many similar events do. If this is a way to get their voice heard then i’m willing to take the risk. It’s an experiment.

      At the last Area Action Group where I (barely in the under 40 category) was one of the youngest people there, there was a strongly voiced opinion by some (much) older people that we needed to engage with the young population to hear what they thought. This is an attempt to do that. Maybe it won’t work, in which case I won’t do it again 🙂

  4. Well it is definitely worth trying! I hope lots of people do attend.
    I would, but I can't do public speaking. My worse nightmare!

    • There will be other opportunities to have your say in a less public format! Look out for other (non age-related) events over the next two months for just such occasions (not necessarily run by me!)

  5. I see this is attracting predictable comments that the views of people renting are worth diddly squat to their local community. So should only posh boys whose parents have funded their housing deposits/purchase prices be allowed to speak?

  6. To Anonymous ranting on about the target age group – STFU! There's nothing wrong with wanting views from a 20-40 age group. Just as there wouldn't be anything wrong with wanting views from a 40-60 age group, or a 5-10 age group, or from people who ride bicycles etc. Stop your PC crap.

  7. Hey West Hampsteadites,

    We’re just acquiring the site of the old Love Food, we will be along tomorrow night for you to tell us what you would like and so we can flex our offering to you guys.

    We will be opening a new, independent cafe & restaurant. We are really excited, and we love West Hampstead (we know WH well, having lived in south hampstead, mill lane and in the areas for years). We can’t wait to be part of the community again.

    We really hope you’ll input tomorrow night – we are all ears! So come armed with your wish list!

    Lorraine

  8. to 'Anonymous 2' I wasn't actually ranting, just raising a valid point. Seeing as the only point you can make is something about what I said, I suggest you butt out. Idiot! I'm not PC and never have been. I have lived in WH for the last 26 years so I am allowed to raise a point without having someone tell me to 'shut the fuck up'. By the way if you are going to say it why

  9. Im really sorry i couldnt make it! what were the outcomes? is there a process for inputing info/ideas?

    Nadia @mish3adel

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